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"When the British (a mainly white, Caucasian race), arrived on the Continent, they stole the land from the indigenous tribes and set them up on reservations that to this day do not fully serve them well." "These tribes are still treated like less than human." "I call it Karma. Our ancestors invaded the peaceful communities of the indigenous tribes and almost destroyed their culture to establish and promote their own culture as the main culture. Now we are seeing history repeat itself, only it is our culture that is suffering."

LucyM11, you hit the nail on the head. "White flight" has taken place in cities across America for the past 30 years.

After reading the article, I want to highlight two things the author stated:

  • I, too, have decided to leave my area, following in the footsteps of so many of my neighbours. I don’t really want to go. I worked long and hard to get to London, to find a good job and buy a home and I’d like to stay here.
  • It’s sad that I am moving not for a positive reason, but to escape something.

Well, boo hoo. What we are witnessing now is a collective karma. Lucy wrote, "when the British arrived on the Continent, they stole the land from the indigenous tribes ...." That exact same statement can be made about Christopher Columbus and the Spainiards, also of the Caucasoid race. Allow me to tell you all a story.

 

A good portion of the Native American (Indians) population were killed by colonist-imported smallpox before the violence began. This means that Columbus and his crew brought the smallpox virus with them. In response to this calamity, Spaniards saw it as "the marvelous goodness and providence of God." The Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony wrote in 1634, "as for the natives, they are near all dead of the smallpox, so as the Lord hath cleared our title to what we possess." He should have said, "the Lord hath cleared our title to what we," STOLE!

Columbus established permanent settlements on the island of Hispaniola (Caribbean island that comprises the nations of Haiti and the Dominican Republic). The native population (called Arawak, indigenous peoples of the West Indies), a harmless, very content people that lived on an island of abundant natural resources, a literal paradise, soon mourned 200,000 dead. The Arawaks population went from an estimated 250,000 to 14,000, in 25 years.

The surviving Arawakians fell victim to rape, murder, enslavement and Spanish raids. One of the colonist wrote, "So many Indians died that they could not be counted, all through the land the Indians lay dead everywhere. The stench was very great and pestiferous."

The Indian chief "Hatuey" fled with his people but was captured and burned alive. As his captors were tying him to the stake, a Franciscan friar urged him to, "take Jesus to his heart so that his soul might go to heaven, rather than descend into hell." Hatuey replied, "if heaven was where the Christians went, he would rather go to hell."

It's the law of Cause and Effect that is now revisiting the ancestors of a group of people that brought chaos, mayhem, and destruction where ever they went. "The chickens have come home to roost." Translation: You have to face the consequences of your mistakes or bad deeds, and unfortunately, it crosses generations.

 

The article is entitled, "I feel like a stranger where I live." Well I wonder how the author thinks indigenous people, and aborigines of myriad countries felt when their land and culture were being hijacked?

One thing that my European brothers and sisters should realize is that, for the most part, people of color (black, red, brown, yellow), we really could care less about "White flight." I live in the thriving city of Atlanta, GA. I suppose white flight occured in the A-T-L, maybe 50-60 years ago, and we've done just fine.

 

 

 

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One thing that my European brothers and sisters should realize is that, for the most part, people of color (black, red, brown, yellow), we really could care less about "White flight." I live in the thriving city of Atlanta, GA. I suppose white flight occured in the A-T-L, maybe 50-60 years ago, and we've done just fine.

 

What a strange thing to say.  I would suggest you realise that the people who are fleeing to escape areas taken over by people of colour couldnt care less what the people they leave behind think of that.

 

The examples of history you have given are about the strong / intelligent taking the land from the less evolved, so definitely dont apply in a modern context as what is happening is the reverse.

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The examples of history you have given are about the strong / intelligent taking the land from the less evolved, so definitely dont apply in a modern context as what is happening is the reverse.

I am not sure what makes these people "strong" or "intelligent", or what made the indigenous people, "less evolved" (who, by the way, taught their captors agriculture, farming, natural medicine, and much more). 

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I am not sure what makes these people "strong" or "intelligent", or what made the indigenous people, "less evolved" (who, by the way, taught their captors agriculture, farming, natural medicine, and much more). 

 

Well Im sure you can see that if people sail across the vast ocean in boats they made themselves, with guns, cannons, watches etc and they find people who are living a basic hunter gatherer existence with no inventions past tents and bows and arrows then its fair to say that the indigenous people were less evolved, isnt it?

 

I don't subscribe to the socialist ideal that all races of the world are evolved to the same level and its nasty to say they arent.  For instance I think the Chinese were well in advance of the western civilisations with their amazing empires, pottery, blades, fireworks etc etc  Do you know they had the first paper money in the world?

 

At the time, the Romans were more advanced than the people of England when they invaded, and we learnt loads from them!  Indeed our road network is still based on those first Roman roads.

 

So I hope that clears up what I meant.

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So Muslim women have as much right to do what they want as Muslim men?  And yet there are many stories of such women prevented from getting an education, threatened with stoning for not covering up.  Can women drive in Saudi now?

 

Maybe you just meant it was more like third class?

 

Saudia is NOT a country it is named after its owner, and is supported by USA in every respect including the human rights abuses.

Yep, muslim women have all the rights what women in any other country have. Wearing a hijab has nothing to do with Islam, it has all to do with tradition, just like in Bugaria, Romania, Greecer etc. You better rent "Zorba the Greek" and learn.

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So Muslim women have as much right to do what they want as Muslim men?  And yet there are many stories of such women prevented from getting an education, threatened with stoning for not covering up.  Can women drive in Saudi now?

 

Maybe you just meant it was more like third class?

 

No, not third class. Not first class either. Just a different class. It so happens that in Islam women and men are treated differently. Now I am not saying that Saudi Arabia or any of those other neighboring countries have got it right. In fact, I know they have approached the issue from the wrong end.

 

Women are supposed to be protected not imprisoned. There's a lot of difference between being protected and being imprisoned. Like you see the POTUS being surrounded by his armed bodyguards and a dangerous convict being surrounded by armed guards. Outwardly both situations look similar but the difference between the two is as much as the difference between heaven and hell.

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No, not third class. Not first class either. Just a different class. It so happens that in Islam women and men are treated differently. Now I am not saying that Saudi Arabia or any of those other neighboring countries have got it right. In fact, I know they have approached the issue from the wrong end.

 

Women are supposed to be protected not imprisoned. There's a lot of difference between being protected and being imprisoned. Like you see the POTUS being surrounded by his armed bodyguards and a dangerous convict being surrounded by armed guards. Outwardly both situations look similar but the difference between the two is as much as the difference between heaven and hell.

I have lived in Middle East and have never heard of a woman who was either imrisoned or suppressed. In fact most of the Muslim women are the boss in the house. This claim is Islamophobia

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I am not trying to advocate violence saying this.  But clearly the moral of the story is fight to the death invaders.  Which tbh is what I thought the native tribes actually did and the ones in the reservation are the very small % of survivors who were not killed.

 

But lets face it, it is evolution for strong races to take over the land of weak ones.  But what we have in the west is weak ones being allowed in for sympathy and then being allowed to outbreed us and they bring with them medieval thinking and treatment of women.

 

I do not think it will end well somehow.  Either the west will say no more and vote in strong right wing governments, or your grand daughters will be wearing the hijab.

Pretty stupid remark. Evern if she wears whatever she will still be your daughter. No woman is ever forced to wear what she does not want to wear. Wake up moron.

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What a strange thing to say.  I would suggest you realise that the people who are fleeing to escape areas taken over by people of colour couldnt care less what the people they leave behind think of that.

 

The examples of history you have given are about the strong / intelligent taking the land from the less evolved, so definitely dont apply in a modern context as what is happening is the reverse.

"People of color" is nonsense. Races no longer exist they are a racist construct of racist individuals.

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I have lived in Middle East and have never heard of a woman who was either imrisoned or suppressed. In fact most of the Muslim women are the boss in the house. This claim is Islamophobia

 

It's good to know that. I have never been to the Middle-East so I didn't know. However I live in a pre-dominantly Muslim society here in Malaysia and the same thing is also true. The women are the real bosses in the house. Actually it's also true for the Chinese who are not Muslims. The women of all races, generally speaking, have been smarter than the men and have, consistently, outsmarted the men by pretending that the men are smarter than the women.

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Pretty stupid remark. Evern if she wears whatever she will still be your daughter. No woman is ever forced to wear what she does not want to wear. Wake up moron.

 

The next comment like this to an administrator of my forum and you are banned.  And stop posting every post in bold and big fonts, your opinion is no more important than anyone elses.

 

I have lived in Middle East and have never heard of a woman who was either imrisoned or suppressed. In fact most of the Muslim women are the boss in the house. This claim is Islamophobia

 

Its pretty strange how you now live in the USA or JewSA as you seem to like to call it.  Maybe people like you are better staying in countries of your own people, we all wish you would.  There is nothing more pathetic than those who leave the 3rd world squalor of their home countries and then having done so lecture about the superiority of their own ways and culture.  We dont want your ways, we had them 500 years ago and we evolved past them.

 

If I were you, I would look closely at the history of the Jews in Europe, as I strongly suspect this is a history the Muslims will repeat as they have taken the same role in society.

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Today's Telegraph Article allows no comments.  (As per usual on any subject people feel passionately about)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9831912/I-feel-like-a-stranger-where-I-live.html

 

 

As new figures show 'white flight' from cities is rising, one Londoner writes a provocative personal piece about how immigration has drastically changed the borough where she has lived for 17 years

 

 

Please feel free to discuss this important topic here.

 

 

Wow. This article can stir up a lot of emotions in people. I can see why they cut off comments. In one of the neighborhoods I was looking at apartments In my new town, there were lots of Muslims. I had never seen anything like it before. I am from DC. The apartment complex wound up being unfit because of a bug problem, but seeing so many Muslims was definitely new to me. I am curious though, if you could comment on the article what would  you say? Anybody can chime in here. I'm curious to see how people feel about the article. Also, I want to know if you've experienced it, specifically a large population of Muslims in your neighborhood.

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Well, @candygirl, I have lived for the most part of my six decaded on this lonely planet in places where the majority of the people are Muslims. Never noticed any particular problems. Not to say there are no problems. It makes me wonder whether those Muslims migrating to the UK are a special class of Muslims. You know, like people who couldn't fit into their own communities back home. Just wondering.

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The situation with foreigners coming into England is ridiculous. I mean without at all being racist, the job situation here in England is becoming an absolute joke, particularly in the North where I'm situated. The unemployment rate is ridiculous, and more people coming into the country is only going to make the situation worse. I feel alienated in my own city for a different reason, mostly because I am much more awake and aware than the dumb sheep around me. As much as it is not all their fault, it just makes life harder being awake and aware, and most the time people aren't going to respect your opinion unless they think like you do.

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We seem to have the same mixture of nationalities being established here in America, as the iPhone pictures show over in England, but here , we have a large predominance of Hispanic people as well. I am pretty sure, that as an older, white American, I am a minority by now, or at least, getting close to it. We certainly do not seem to have much to say about what happens in our own country anymore, but many of us are still the ones working, and supporting the newcomers that are just here and receiving benefits that were supposed to be for older folks when they could no longer work, and retired.

It is unsettling to be at the driver license bureau, and there are people in there getting a drivers license that can barely speak English.

How are they going to read and understand driving laws and signs, when they can't even tell the examiner what COLOR their car is ? We have always been a nation of immigrants, but up to now, they came here, and learned the language, and loved being an American. Now, we have people here that disrespect our American flag, and have no desire to truly become a working part of this country .

We do need younger people to come here and be workers, because there are so many that are retired now, and getting out of the workforce.

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 We have always been a nation of immigrants, but up to now, they came here, and learned the language, and loved being an American. Now, we have people here that disrespect our American flag, and have no desire to truly become a working part of this country .

We do need younger people to come here and be workers, because there are so many that are retired now, and getting out of the workforce.

 

These new immigrants are not here (or there) to adapt to your ways, no they are there to out-breed the native people and then make you adapt to their ways.  We are all in danger of having been invaded and conquered without a shot ever being fired.

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I live in New York City, love it. Every race here. Black, Hispanic: i.e. Dominican, Mexican, etc. Chinese, Korean, Japanese here too. Russians, Jews, Italians. Most of the white people here in America who are anti immigrant or strongly-pro-white usually live in the middle of the country. We call that flyover territory. Mostly because outside of a few cities, there's no reason to live there. The summers are long, hot, and boring. And the winters are long, cold, and boring. The culture here is twisting heavily towards people of color. Music, t.v., etc. Even sports teams are fleeing flyover country for the east and west coasts where they can make more money off ticket buyers, build new arenas, and lure big superstar ball players. Airports are leaving small towns and moving to big cities because no one wants to fly to these small towns, and the people who live there don't have the money to leave.

 

In the end, America has now become like two countries living in different time periods. On the east, west coasts, and cities like Atlanta, Chicago, Las Vegas, etc. It's all about hustle, bustle, diversity, money, sports, glitz, and glamour. In places like the deep south and rural areas, it's misery, boredom, hyper-aging, and pretty much no future. Glad I live where I live for certain! It's expensive but it's worth it.

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I live in New York City, love it. Every race here. Black, Hispanic: i.e. Dominican, Mexican, etc. Chinese, Korean, Japanese here too. Russians, Jews, Italians. Most of the white people here in America who are anti immigrant or strongly-pro-white usually live in the middle of the country. We call that flyover territory. Mostly because outside of a few cities, there's no reason to live there. The summers are long, hot, and boring. And the winters are long, cold, and boring. The culture here is twisting heavily towards people of color. Music, t.v., etc. Even sports teams are fleeing flyover country for the east and west coasts where they can make more money off ticket buyers, build new arenas, and lure big superstar ball players. Airports are leaving small towns and moving to big cities because no one wants to fly to these small towns, and the people who live there don't have the money to leave.

 

In the end, America has now become like two countries living in different time periods. On the east, west coasts, and cities like Atlanta, Chicago, Las Vegas, etc. It's all about hustle, bustle, diversity, money, sports, glitz, and glamour. In places like the deep south and rural areas, it's misery, boredom, hyper-aging, and pretty much no future. Glad I live where I live for certain! It's expensive but it's worth it.

 

But the immigrants have moved to those areas as their nature is parasitic, it is not their nature to create busy successful cities, but to take advantage of them.  Look at cities that are mostly non-white, they are slums. The middle of America is not quiet due to lack of them, it lacks them because it is quiet.

 

Also to suggest that a rural area is hyper-aging, how does that work?  Everyone knows the countryside is relaxing, chilled out and a lot less toxic, an environment where ageing happens much slower.  Look at the oldest people in the world, they live in quiet rural areas not bustling cities.

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I think the root of the problem here is the mechanics of democracy. This one man one vote idea is definitely backfiring. As long as a person is a citizen, it doesn't matter where his parents came from or what the color of his skin is. He is entitled to one vote. And you only need one vote to win or lose an election. Once elected, the chosen persons have the authority to make changes to the laws which, naturally, will be of benefit to their kind.

 

Perhaps it's high time to do a soul-searching review of the merits of democracy.

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I think the root of the problem here is the mechanics of democracy. This one man one vote idea is definitely backfiring. As long as a person is a citizen, it doesn't matter where his parents came from or what the color of his skin is. He is entitled to one vote. And you only need one vote to win or lose an election. Once elected, the chosen persons have the authority to make changes to the laws which, naturally, will be of benefit to their kind.

 

Perhaps it's high time to do a soul-searching review of the merits of democracy.

 

The state takes money from the workers to finance the state.  Why should those who pay no taxes (ie dont work) have a say in how the state is run?  I would change the system such that for every $5000 in tax you pay every year you get one vote, up to say a maximum of 10.

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But the immigrants have moved to those areas as their nature is parasitic, it is not their nature to create busy successful cities, but to take advantage of them.  Look at cities that are mostly non-white, they are slums. The middle of America is not quiet due to lack of them, it lacks them because it is quiet.

 

Also to suggest that a rural area is hyper-aging, how does that work?  Everyone knows the countryside is relaxing, chilled out and a lot less toxic, an environment where ageing happens much slower.  Look at the oldest people in the world, they live in quiet rural areas not bustling cities.

 

 

 

Relaxing? Countryside people sorry to say are small-minded mostly. Racist, off their rocker in most cases, and just bizarre. There's nothing relaxing about living in the middle of nowhere of....the middle of nowhere. Sorry. Also yes, the oldest people in the world do live in mostly rural areas. That's why business wise, those areas are dying. Airports are leaving, businesses are leaving, sports teams are leaving. Multiplexes as well. There's nothing to do. No area can survive when the young and upwardly mobile are like 2% of the population. At my age, I need stuff to do, places to spend my money, and need to have fun on weekends. That equals NY, Cali, Atlanta, Miami, or some place like that. No maybe when I'm like, 85...I'll rethink this position but for now? I love city life.

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