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Apparently the Vatican helped 100's of thousands of Nazi's escape during WWII to countries in South America, if this is true, it's disturbing in so many ways.

 

Has anyone else heard about this(try googleing it)? And do you think it's true?

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I think this is true, at least my history buff friends have all said that this is true. I don't have a link. Apparently the church has since admitted some wrong-doing in the matter of the holocaust, over the years since the war. It is well known that many Nazi's did hide in places such as Argentina and the church helped them flee by claiming they were Catholic refugees. I think about half of Germany was Catholic, so there were always ties with the church.

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The Catholic Church so has many anomalies, so I won't be surprised if that is really true. I recently learned and have found enough evidence that Pope Benedict and Pope John Paul II were freemasons. so it's not surprising if the Vatican was in cahoots with the Nazi's.

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Many of the high ranking Germans (some Nazi's some not) were aristocrats and Catholic. The Catholic Church likely assisted some of these to "move" towards the end, and after the War. I have not researched this so it's only my opinion.

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Yesterday, while I was at work, my sister stole my iphone and tested to see if it can survive a forty foot drop, just so she can be a youtube sensation. My apple ipad is now broken and she has 83 views. I know this is entirely off topic but I had to share it with someone!

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Hmm, that's news to me.

 

But I agree with the poster a few posts above. The Catholic Church so many anomalies and I wouldn't be surprised if this were true.

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Well it's also fact that America and Great Britain took into alot of Nazi scientist to further progress in their country. They admire the Nazi scientist and protected them at all cost. This is very true but you will never hear about this in any mainstream history book of course. 

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Apparently the Vatican helped 100's of thousands of Nazi's escape during WWII to countries in South America, if this is true, it's disturbing in so many ways.

 

Has anyone else heard about this(try googleing it)? And do you think it's true?

 

Why would that be disturbing?  The whole basis of this religion is to ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven, and to not judge people, only God / Jesus should judge etc

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There are so many stories about the Nazi's and the holocaust.  No one can really be sure of what exactly went on.  There are rumors that say the death tolls from the concentration camps are very much exaggerated.  History has a way of choosing who the villains are, and who the heroes are.  Rather, the people who control what the HIStory books say, have a way of choosing who the villains and the heroes are.  

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Thanks for sharing. I too read in history books that Nazis were captured in South America and put on trial in Europe or something. Maybe there is more to the story, than saving the rich or high ranking officials from punishment. I would not be surprised if it is true or false. There is so many rumors going around. Like omariferrari said, history is written by the victors and not the loosers.

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I've heard about this, myself, and along that same line I had heard that Hitler himself had been relocated to South America as well and hadn't actually died until a few years ago.  I wonder how true that is, given the information in this thread.

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It amazes me that despite of facts and figures of the Vatican presenting scam and fraud when it comes to faith and even contextual doctrine, a lot of people still fall for it. They're followers are ridiculously adamant about the culture this church has created. It's sad how the brainwashing went deep like this.

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Wouldn't surprise me. The last Pope was part of the Hitler youth so the idea that the church helped the Nazis escape is not a big jump. They have gotten good at covering things up and will probably continue to deny any relation. Some people are blind to the corruption and deception but the church has been running that way for hundreds of years.

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Most religions contradict themselves so terribly that it is a wonder to me that people follow them, when the holes in their theories are so glaringly obvious. I've never really thought that certain religious teachings made sense, but since finding spirituality everything makes sense. I don't even have to TRY to grasp things, and everything just falls into place. With religion, hardly anything makes sense, which leads me to ask the question of what benefit one could stand to gain from making masses of people follow one religion. The answer was: control and fear.

 

So yes, I do think that religions are largely manipulated and controlled - and even funded by the NWO or Illuminati as a way to brainwash people into what is possible, acceptable, and to put fear into people's hearts.

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Yesterday, while I was at work, my sister stole my iphone and tested to see if it can survive a forty foot drop, just so she can be a youtube sensation. My apple ipad is now broken and she has 83 views. I know this is entirely off topic but I had to share it with someone!

 

 

Well, I hope you are making her replace the phone.  It would be the right thing for her to do under the circumstances.

 

Now, onto the subject at hand.  I don't know whether the Vatican actually helped Nazi's leave Germany after the occupation.  As some have said this is more or less a rumor.  But correct me if I'm wrong at the time this happen the extent of the crimes the Nazi's had committed wasn't made public.  Yes, there were rumors to the extent of what they had done, but nothing concrete.  Ever heard of innocent till proven guilty?  Maybe this was a stance that the Vatican had at the time.  Also, I'm sure there were some in the Nazi regime who may have regretted their actions and sought help from the Vatican.  Yes, I don't have proof on either of these things, I guess I'm just trying to point out that things aren't always as cut and dry as they may seem.  

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I think it us true. The Catholic church has done so many horrid things. Why wouldn't they help out Nazis as well? 

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I'm not surprised. The Church has been involved in so many plots and conspiracies within the last several centuries or so that I wouldn't be shocked if the Vatican actually masterminded something like this. I think it takes a researcher with real guts and gumption to dig deep into the archives in the Vatican or elsewhere to determine what is fact and what is fiction.

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The Vatican, War, Rothschilds, and Rockefellers are all birds of the same feather. The Vatican and the Catholic Church owns thousands upon thousands of churches, cathedrals, monasteries, nunneries and sundry edifices throughout the world. No one knows the value of the land upon which all these buildings stand. The Vatican has always been the most astounding wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She has large investments in banking, insurance, chemicals, steel, construction, real estate, and the underworld.

The Vatican is the most historically corrupt institution humankind has ever known. If any individual or organization attempts to derail the maleficent machine that is the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church, as Lincoln and Kennedy attempted to do by trying to usurp their power by limiting the financial scope of Central Banks and International Bankers - specifically the Rothchilds, Morgans, and the Rockefellers, they will be eliminated from the face of the Earth.

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If this is true, then it's very possible that the era of the nazis is far from over. I am sure many Germans shared Hitler's idea of the master race. What is there to stop all those nazis from going underground and continuing towards their goal of world domination. I believe many of them are intelligent men and many of them are rich, too.

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I wouldn't doubt that the Vatican would do something like that, I mean they tried to cover up pedophilia. I could see them trying to cover-up saving Nazi's. Hell, one of the former Pope's was a Hitler Youth. 

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Really don't view this as shocking. Of course, I have heard it several times, so that might be a factor. However, from the Vatican's perspective, it would probably make sense. 

What always gets lost in the translation is that Hitler and the Nazis were very anti-Masonic. Don't believe it? Read some of Hitler's speeches. The Catholic Church is and always has been anti-Masonic. Now, I am not saying that was a primary factor, but I think it would be ridiculous to consider it a non-factor.

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On 3/1/2013 at 8:14 PM, Nik_L said:

Apparently the Vatican helped 100's of thousands of Nazi's escape during WWII to countries in South America, if this is true, it's disturbing in so many ways.

 

Has anyone else heard about this(try googleing it)? And do you think it's true?

I think this is probably true.

I've seen old photographs of German priests doing a 'Hitler salute'.

 

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On 3/2/2013 at 3:58 AM, sidney said:

The Catholic Church so has many anomalies, so I won't be surprised if that is really true. I recently learned and have found enough evidence that Pope Benedict and Pope John Paul II were freemasons. so it's not surprising if the Vatican was in cahoots with the Nazi's.

A very recent Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth when he was young.

 

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On 3/2/2013 at 4:35 PM, Guest Escort Moscow said:

Yesterday, while I was at work, my sister stole my iphone and tested to see if it can survive a forty foot drop, just so she can be a youtube sensation. My apple ipad is now broken and she has 83 views. I know this is entirely off topic but I had to share it with someone!

There's an off-topic section on this site.

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