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Excuse my ignorance but it's a phrase I'm hearing more and more. My friend has been throwing it around a lot too and I'd like to know what he's talking about. Is it a behind the scenes group? The illuminati? What?

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In my humble opinion or expression, 

 

Its a group of like minded people who have globalist agendas and are HELL BENT ON WORLD DOMINATION by any means possible. They all come together and conspire together to create a one world government or at least come up with a system to control the mass population. As Neo had pointed out, creating 2 classes in the process (Eilte and slaves). Creating a system so powerful that the slaves will ALWAYS REMAIN as slaves to serve the elites thus allowing the elites to always remain in power. Slaves cannot never get out of their own class, because the system requires them to be in that place ... so that the elites always remain at the top comfortably. 

 

 

Ask yourself this question. Have you ever been a victim of the monetary system in this world ? I think the monetary system is only one of the tools that the Elites used to control the mass population ... and its a darn good system. But where does money (a piece of paper note) even comes from ? 

 

 

Though this type of system has been around for ages, but apparently people are more "awaken" these days to realize that there is something very wrong with the way world powers are running the world today. 

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In my humble opinion or expression, 

 

Its a group of like minded people who have globalist agendas and are HELL BENT ON WORLD DOMINATION by any means possible. They all come together and conspire together to create a one world government or at least come up with a system to control the mass population. As Neo had pointed out, creating 2 classes in the process (Eilte and slaves). Creating a system so powerful that the slaves will ALWAYS REMAIN as slaves to serve the elites thus allowing the elites to always remain in power. Slaves cannot never get out of their own class, because the system requires them to be in that place ... so that the elites always remain at the top comfortably. 

 

Pretty much this.  A lot more people are becoming privy to the fact that our current state is horribly imbalanced (there was an instance in Iceland which was very encouraging in that regard), but what will happen in the future for us remains to be seen.

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It is a goal the the elite have to dominate the world and even wipe out the population, because in their eyes, other races "contaminate" things and they want to keep it clean and to breed their own "elite" race instead. Here's a link that explains what is NWO: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nv2.htm

 

I keep reading people saying this, but I see zero evidence of it.  If you had two horses and one was hard working and strong, and the other one lazy and good for nothing.  Which would you breed?  And why is it the opposite for people?

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In a sense the new world order is essentialy the old world order. What is the difference, from what exists or has existed in the world? There are those who have the money or assets who are controlling to a great degree, the outcome of the order of society and then there are those who are regulated to the lower aspects of trying to exist with what they are allowed to earn, with a few exceptions of accidental millionaires. I fail to see what the difference would be. All of us including the wealthy are susceptible to the rules and regulations which require some adherence or else are penalized. The President is required to pay taxes.

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Essentially I believe it to be a one world government, one currency, two classes.  Elite and slaves.

I understand what you're saying, but I've always been a believer of what Orwell stated in 1984, that there's a high class who rules, a middle class who works, and a low class, whose purpose is to remind the middle class what will happen to them if they don't keep working. That said, I agree with the rest of your statement... Warfare these days has replaced weapons with money.

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I understand what you're saying, but I've always been a believer of what Orwell stated in 1984, that there's a high class who rules, a middle class who works, and a low class, whose purpose is to remind the middle class what will happen to them if they don't keep working. That said, I agree with the rest of your statement... Warfare these days has replaced weapons with money.

 Right now, my friend, you do not know who is drinking and who is paying for it. Everybody is trying to outdo the other in cheating, lying and robbing people blind.

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This would be something many cultures strived for in the past. The closest might be the Roman Empire but even they were not fully in control of much of their domain.

 

I agree that it may just come down to money. Look at the attitude of people like George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. Wealthy as snot but they just have to work as hard as they can to "make" the rest of our lives "better", pretty discusting in my view that someone that finacially succesful needs to shove their ideas on everyone else. To me that is classic low self esteem bullying.

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I think that governments have always been prone to corruption. Government is really just a word for the legal power to use force. Most people agree that the proper role of government is to use it's force to protect the citizen's individual rights. 

 

Others argue that the role of government is to do what ever the majority says it should do: which is pure democracy and amounts to mob rule and the persecution of minorities. Minorites being anyone who does not hold the majority opinion. Since the days of ancient Greece we have seen that pure democracy means the majority can and will rob, kill or otherwise harm minorities as they please.

 

If the laws of a nation are not founded on the principle of a limited government whose job is to use it's force to protect individual rights, then it deteriorates into mob rule or dictatorship.

 

This is playing out in Europe now, before our eyes, where people have voted for Socialistic policies, including central banking systems and now they are paying the price. And also in the Middle East, where democratic elections result in a majority that is just fine with inflicting murderous Sharia Law on the minorities within those countries.

 

In the United States, our founders knew all about the problems with Democracy and tried to set up a system of government, a Representative Republic, that had provisions in which no one group would ever gain majority status for very long, and the branches of government were set up to be in competition with each other, so that the seat of power would never be in the hands of just one branch or party. 

 

Unfortunately, many people in the U.S. have embraced the principles of Democracy and eroded many of the checks and balances that were established.  Also, the ideals of Socialism have seeped in through the University system and popular culture, causing class warfare to become a huge influence in the culture and politics. 

 

The system isn't completely broken and there is hope, I believe. Individuals, using their own productive capacity can still rise from nothing to become what ever they want to be, by producing goods and service that people want and need. But, the formation of the Federal Reserve and a central banking system full of regulations and run with cronyism and favoritism, is now running rampant and destroying the wealth quicker than the individual producers can generate the wealth. And, only individuals produce wealth. Governments take capital out of the hands of productive individuals and redistribute that capital to their friends in government or just the friends of government - none of which amounts to one bit of wealth creation.

 

Some say it's the "evil" rich who are causing the problems. But that groups the bad guys and the good guys together. It is not being rich that is the problem. Some people become rich by taking advantage of the favoritism in government and use the politics of "pull." It's who you know that matters to them, not your merit as a productive person. They get rich by becoming "connected" to the politically powerful. But, many others become rich by their own merit: enriching the world by creating things that hold true value: like new uses for computers, for instance. 

 

Take someone like Steve Jobs, a true innovator who provided priceless value to the world with his inventions. He got rich. But, he was not evil. Compare him to another rich man, say, John Kerry, our current Secretary of State. This man created nothing. He used his family's connections to marry well and he gains through the riches of others: the productive ability of his wife's family, first, and now he profits from government as he uses the force of government to spread his ideals (ironically, they are all about class warfare!) around the globe. 

 

One is a man of merit and one is a man of favoritism. Both are rich. Only one is evil. So, I do not attack the rich because our problems are not about class. They are about productivity vs. crony capitalism (or crony socialism as I like to call it.)

 

And the masses buy into the government propaganda generated by both parties. Class envy is used by both parties. The Democrats push the nanny state option while the Republicans use big government to run their crony capitalistic schemes.

 

Instead of protecting individual rights the masses want the government to "level the playing field" because those evil rich have too much. 

 

When people see all of this, it is easy to think there is a conspiracy going on. But, in reality, we are just watching cause and effect in action. There is no organized NWO, at least I see no proof of it. Just the same old game, with the money running out, because you can only squeeze the productive individuals so much before they give up, retire or go on the dole, hastening the crash.

 

Sorry for such a long post, but I am quite passionate about this issue. That's my take on the NWO.

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Our governments are not governments at all. They are subjected to being ruled by secret societies, and governments of other countries. If you do not believe me go to Washington street and see for yourself. At least 10,000 people are employed by the Lobbying groups of every type. Walk down K street and take a look at the names occupying hundreds of offices. The biggest Lobby in United States and the most powerful one is the Zionist Lobby, AIPAC, and many dozens of others who work under cover.I know Washington, and most of our political leaders are bought and sold like used cars.

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Our governments are not governments at all. They are subjected to being ruled by secret societies, and governments of other countries. If you do not believe me go to Washington street and see for yourself. At least 10,000 people are employed by the Lobbying groups of every type. Walk down K street and take a look at the names occupying hundreds of offices. The biggest Lobby in United States and the most powerful one is the Zionist Lobby, AIPAC, and many dozens of others who work under cover.I know Washington, and most of our political leaders are bought and sold like used cars.

 

The lobbying goes on in the open, there is nothing undercover about it. What secret societies? Show me the evidence.

 

I dispute your anti-Jew rhetoric once again. The lobbies that have spent the most money lately in the US are:

 

1. The Chamber of Commerce

2. General Electric

3. The American Medical Association

 

Here is a tally of the highest spenders: http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php

 

None of these groups are Zionists/Supporters of Israel!

 

Lobbying is not evil, in essence. In fact, it is a form of free speech. Individuals have a right to band together and make their case to the government officials. What is wrong, is the direct exchange of money for favoritism in the political process. The fraud is illegal and needs to be rooted out.

 

If we were not corrupt in our thinking as individuals we could elect ethical politicians. But, most people like the status quo and therefore nothing gets changed. Again, no conspiracy here, just business as usual.

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Bluemachine, you are blinded by your unconditional support for Zionism, which is no different than fascism. Perhaps even worse. it is a militant underground organization most of whose members are despised in every nation under the Sun. In JewSA it is the AIPAC Loby which was instrumental in starting several wars and slaughter of many thousands of people, including Americans.

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Is the idea that a group of people want complete control of the world. Media, Army, Politics, Justice, Healthcare any everything else controlled by a group of people that dictate what and how should be done.

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I thought it might be something like that but this seems more like a Secret World Order. I'm not sure if I see anything "New" about it. It seems like there's always been some elite in the background pulling the strings of society.

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Wikipedia defines the Illuminati or "The Enlightened" as: A name that refers to several groups, both historical and modern, and both real and fictitious. Historically, it refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776.

In modern times it is also used to refer to a purported conspiratorial organization which acts as a shadowy "power behind the throne", allegedly controlling world affairs through present day governments and corporations, usually as a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this context, Illuminati is often used in reference to a New World Order (NWO). Many conspiracy theorists believe the Illuminati are the masterminds behind events that will lead to the establishment of such a New World Order.

The Illuminati is allegedly a secret society organized a couple millenniums ago by Jesuit priests; continued by a council of five men, one for each of the points on the pentagram. These men formed what was called "The Ancient and Illuminated Seers of Bavaria." A society of Luciferian Freemasons immersed in mysticism and eastern mental disciplines. One primary goal was to develop the super powers of the mind. Their initial plan and purpose was (and still is) world domination.

For centuries, the Illuminati have been rumored to be the hidden motivational force encouraging global domination, centralized control of the world's economic systems; a New World Order.

 

Source: squidoo.com/illuminati3

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